Until Saturday: A show about college football

The Athletic

  • 1 hour 10 minutes
    Are Colorado & Deion CFB's biggest villains? + Top players in 2024

    A vortex of social media activity ensued after Tuesday's podcast with Max Olson (which can be found in your feed). Multiple ex-Colorado players spoke with Max about their experience being cut from the program when Deion Sanders took over, and those thoughts were shared on this show. Since then, Deion and Shedeur Sanders have responded to some of those former players who aired their thoughts on social media. Ari Wasserman and Sam Khan Jr. weigh in on what has been said by Prime and others. But, before then, Ari and Sam explain why House vs. NCAA is important to you as a CFB fan. They also acquaint you with draft-eligible players that you need to know.


    Rundown:

    - House vs NCAA & how it could completely change CFB (2:00)

    - Top offensive draft-eligible players (10:00)

    - Top defensive draft-eligible players (24:00)

    - Who's going to pop-off this season? (34:00)

    - Tin Hat Ari (46:00)

    - "Bush League" Deion Sanders (48:15)


    Read Max's Colorado story:

    https://theathletic.com/5449961/2024/04/29/deion-sanders-colorado-transfer-portal-2023/


    Read Dane's 2025 mock draft:

    https://theathletic.com/5458526/2024/04/30/nfl-mock-draft-2025-prediction-shedeur-sanders-will-johnson/


    Read Justin's House vs. NCAA explainer:

    https://theathletic.com/5174023/2024/01/03/ncaa-proposal-subdivision-lawsuits/


    Read Ari's story about Sam Salz:

    https://theathletic.com/5457913/2024/05/02/sam-salz-texas-am-football-shabbat/


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    3 May 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 16 minutes
    What happened to Colorado's castoffs? Miami & Auburn's portal splashes

    What happened to Colorado's players that weren't deemed to be Louis? Max Olson takes us behind the scenes of 20 Buffaloes players that were cast off when Deion Sanders took over the Boulder based program. Ari Wasserman and Chris Vannini then discuss the buzz about a Group of 5 playoff. Is a postseason imminent for the G5? What's incoming AAC commissioner Tim Pernetti's philosophy compared to Mike Arresco, and what's Ari's biggest sticking point in this? Do college football fans still follow their favorite player(s) after they leave for the NFL? We asked you, the listeners, and reacted to your responses.


    Read Max's story:

    https://theathletic.com/5449961/2024/04/29/deion-sanders-colorado-transfer-portal-2023/


    Rundown:

    - What happened to Colorado's castoffs? (3:00)

    - Group chats and players' feelings on being cut (7:30)

    - Transfer portal news: Miami, Auburn, K-State makin' moves (19:30)

    - Is a Group of 5 playoff imminent? (41:00)

    - Do fans follow their favorite player(s) after leaving their program? (58:00)


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    30 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 16 minutes
    Is the NFL terrified of next year's CFB QBs? Changing college football history & Reggie Bush justice

    Ari Wasserman and Chris Vannini sat down right after the NFL Draft to share their biggest takeaways from Thursday night. Michael Penix Jr. and Atlanta is a curious case, but the dude can rip the football. J.J. McCarthy left an impression on Ari as a teenager in high school, but will his spunk and skillset translate? Bo Nix, Penix, and McCarthy all being selected in the top-12 has us wondering, are NFL teams terrified of next year's crop of college quarterbacks? The wide receivers in this class were all-timers. Later, Scott Dochterman joins the podcast to discuss Reggie Bush being reunited with his Heisman Trophy, and what it says about the current climate of CFB. If we could change one thing in the sport's history, what would it be? How is NIL impacting the Draft, and will Iowa hit the transfer portal for a QB?


    Rundown:

    - Michael Penix and J.J. McCarthy (3:00)

    - Are NFL teams terrified of next year's QB class? (14:30)

    - Wide receivers & favorite picks from the first round (18:00)

    - Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy is returned...but why the long wait? (25:30)

    - Changing CFB history (45:30)

    - How NIL is impacting the NFL Draft (51:00)

    - Iowa spring check-in & QB situation (1:01:30)

    - ACC update (1:07:30)

    - Iowa gambling probe update (1:09:00)


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    26 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 17 minutes
    NFL Draft prospects vs CFB eye test + Spring games observations with Bruce Feldman

    Ari Wasserman welcomes Bruce Feldman to the podcast ahead of the NFL Draft to analyze prospects he believes are polarizing based on their body of work in college. Ari questions Michigan QB's J.J. McCarthy's draft stock, which has soared to astronomical heights. Bruce shares his opinion as well as that NFL sources and CFB head coaches to provide a comprehensive picture of what the NFL community thinks of McCarthy, Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Brock Bowers, and more. Plus, who are some of Bruce's under-the-radar prospects? Later, the pair whip around the country to programs who just concluded their spring games. From Michigan and Texas to South Carolina and USC, the guys dish on several important teams. Lastly, we rifle through our mailbag and answer your questions!


    Rundown:

    - NFL Draft analysis + which players has Ari miss the mark on? (3:30)

    - Understanding the J.J. McCarthy hype + Maye and Williams (8:45)

    - Why is Brock Bowers considered elite? (18:15)

    - Under the radar prospects (22:30)

    - Spring games observations: Oklahoma (30:30)

    - Duke and Maalik Murphy intrigue (33:00)

    - Texas and Arch Manning (36:00)

    - Is Florida State a top-15 team? (41:00)

    - Are we overlooking Michigan? (43:30)

    - USC and Miller Moss (48:30)

    - South Carolina's place in the expanding SEC (54:30)

    - Texas A&M's defense (56:00)

    - Mailbag: Can't miss games this season (59:30)

    - Mailbag: What to make of Colorado's team construction? (1:04:00)


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    23 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 22 minutes
    Portal intel & Colorado's sneaky smart move + Notre Dame's high expectations in 2024

    The spring portal continues to rewrite the record books. Max Olson joins Ari to contextualize data, trends, and share his portal intel. Shilo Sanders' social media post directing transfers to message him or his brother, Shedeur, drew skepticism from college football fans. Was too much made of Sanders' invitation? Ari believes so, while Max thinks this was a smart way to circumvent tampering rules. The Portal Authority shares his thoughts on RBs Alton McCaskill and Damien Martinez, CB Tacario Davis, DT Damonic Williams, and he and Ari determine if your program should recurit some of the more intriguing transfers using the N.I.L. scale. The Athletic's Notre Dame scribe Pete Sampson hops on afterward to spread the word about the Irish's spring ahead of their spring game this weekend. What does Pete think of OC Mike Denbrock, Riley Leonard's injury, the WR and OL rooms, the returning production on defense, and expectations for South Bend's team and Marcus Freeman in 2024?


    Rundown:

    -Dissecting portal data (2:45)

    -Colorado's portal activity by the numbers (11:00)

    -Shilo Sanders' IG post & was this a smart move? (17:00)

    -TCU's big loss + pocket watching (26:30)

    -N.I.L. scale: Cormani McClain, Keandre Lambert-Smith + more (37:30)

    -Notre Dame spring game preview + 2024 expectations (51:00)

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    19 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 10 minutes
    The Spring Portal begins, but do fans love or hate it? + Alabama and Georgia spring recap

    The spring transfer window opened Tuesday morning, and players flooded the system. The number of entrants were over double that of last year's opening day. There are new reasons for fans to be excited and loathsome of the portal, but what's the consensus? Do fans love or hate the spring window? Ari and Chris discuss the pros and cons of the structure as well as standout players on the move. Later, Chris breaks down Michigan football's NCAA violations stemming from impermissable contact during COVID. Kennington Smith III and Seth Emerson then join the podcast to debrief us on Alabama and Georgia's spring games. Kenny shares what the atmostphere was like at Kalen DeBoer's first A-Day with over 70,000 fans in attendance. Plus, what positions do the Crimson Tide need to patch through the portal? Carson Beck shares his thoughts on the Bulldogs' G-Day, and Seth opines on the skill position talent that stood out in the spring game.


    Rundown:

    - Spring portal opens & players flood in (2:30)

    - Do fans love or hate the portal? (6:30)

    - Notable players on the move (21:30)

    - Colorado's portal departures & G5 movement (30:30)

    - Michigan NCAA violations, penalties (39:30)

    - Alabama, Georgia spring debriefs (44:00)


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    16 April 2024, 7:48 pm
  • 1 hour 17 minutes
    Spring transfer portal preview + Will Drew Allar & Penn St. make the leap?

    April 16 marks the beginning of the college football spring transfer window. And, according to some, it will be the most chaotic spring portal period to date. Ari, Chris, and the Portal Authority, Max Olson, prepare you for next week's barrage of player movement by identifying which teams are likely to be the most active (Alabama and Washington, among others), and the players you should keep your eyes on (like RB Damien Martinez). Later, The Athletic's Penn State scribe Audrey Snyder fills us in on everything going on in Happy Valley. Of everything discussed, the most important topic, as you might suspect, is will QB Drew Allar take the next step under new OC Andy Kotelnicki? Will a playoff berthe be enough to satisfy Nittany Lions fans? Speaking of things going on in Pennsylvania, Chris just came back from Wrestlemania. By his estimation, what can college football learn from wrestling/WWE?


    Rundown:

    - Explaining the rules of the spring transfer portal (3:00)

    - Which teams will be the most active in the portal? (8:15)

    - Portal players to watch: Damian Martinez, Henry Perrish Jr., and more (15:30)

    - 'Ari, Would You Rather': Would you take a billion dollars, but you could only eat turkey sandwichies for the rest of your life? (35:00)

    - Audrey Snyder joins the show! (38:15)

    - What CFB can learn from Wrestlemania (58:00)


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    12 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 15 minutes
    CFB realignment that makes sense, Is Quinn Ewers the Heisman favorite? + Impact Freshmen

    In the wake of last week's Super League report, Sam realigned all 70-plus top-tier programs in divisions that make sense. Ari and David share their thoughts on the ode to regional ties, and is there a future where we have leagues that actually make sense geographically? Is Quinn Ewers the Heisman frontrunner? The Longhorns' QB might be the signal-caller best set up for success. Which Freshmen will contribute immediately this season?


    Rundown:

    - Realigned conferences in a Super League (4:30)

    - Is there a future with geographically-sensibile football? (25:00)

    - Is Quinn Ewers the Heisman frontrunner? (40:00)

    - Impact Freshmen (47:30)

    - One of our best voicemails to date (1:04:30)


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    9 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 12 minutes
    Spring mysteries: Does Ohio State have a QB competition? | How would a Super League work? | Sneaky-good portal gets

    Is college football in store for a super league in the future? The Athletic's Stewart Mandel and Andrew Marchand reported on Wednesday about a budding organization created by a very influential group of people involving just that. Ari and Max discuss what a super league would look like, who would benefit, what major roadblocks are preventing a conglomeration of teams, the pros of a centralized governing body, and more. Later, Ohio State scrivner Cameron Teague Robinson addresses why the Buckeyes' quarterback situation might not be as cut and dry as many think. Plus, Jeremiah Smith is DIFFERENT, and Chip Kelly's influence so far. The Portal Guru, aka Max, fills you in on sneaky-good portal additions during the transfer window with the spring window around the corner. Plus, who will be the next celebrity HC like Deion?


    Rundown:

    -How would a Super League work? + What's holding it back & pros/cons (1:45)

    -Spring mysteries: Does OSU have a QB competition? (18:00)

    -Chip Kelly's influence (26:00)

    -Is Jeremiah Smith HIM? (27:45)

    -Sneaky-good portal gets (39:30)

    -Who is the next celebrity coach? (1:01:30)


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    5 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 30 minutes
    Wild Card QBs in 2024 | Way-too-early hot seat watch | How Cason Beck's navigated NIL and the portal

    At a position with both constants and questions, quarterback is the most make-it or break-it position in college football. But, which QBs fall in the middle of that scale? Who are the sport's wild cards? Ari and David each list several pigskin hurlers who fit that criteria in 2024. Later, Seth Emerson pops in to talk about his exclusive interivew with Georgia QB Carson Beck. Seth shares why Beck has stuck around Athens for as long as he has, instead of darting for the portal. He also explains fan and player sentiment around Beck's widely-viewed Lamborghini purchase. There's a lull in the CFB calendar at the moment, but the urgency hasn't subsided for these hot seat coaches.


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    https://theathletic.com/tag/until-saturday/


    Rundown:

    -Wild Card QBs (2:30)

    -Nico Iamaleava and QB investment (15:00)

    -Preston Stone & Cam Rising comeback season? (28:30)

    -How Carson Beck has navigated NIL, portal (41:15)

    -Hot seat coaches (58:30)

    -Until Saturday newsletter bracket challenge: Final Four results (1:20:30)


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    2 April 2024, 7:00 am
  • 1 hour 29 minutes
    Mount Rushmore of HCs | Is Deion failing in real time & death of CFB prop bets?

    Sad Husker Nate, one of Until Saturday's long-time listeners, called in with a question that Ari has been dreading to answer all week: Who is on our Mount Rushmore of college football head coaches? Ari, David, and Mitch each share who they believe are the four most influential and successful coaches to ever lead a program(s). The trio also discusses NCAA president Charlie Baker's attempt to ban prop bets in college sports. But, why now, and will it work? Lincoln Riley scored a major win over the weekend. Plus, is Deion Sanders failing in front of our eyes?


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    Rundown:

    - Charlie Baker proposes ban of prop bets in college sports (3:15)

    - Our Mount Rushmore of CFB head coaches (13:15)

    - Lincoln Riley and USC are...prioritizing recruits who play defense? (52:15)

    - Is Deion failing right in front of our eyes? (1:03:00)


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    29 March 2024, 7:00 am
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