Mike Giant interviews Rime MSK with special guest Persué at Mike's studio in San Diego, California on December 22, 2023.

Topics discussed include:  Honesty, fear of conflict, Thich Nhat Hanh, porn, intimacy, self-reflection, self-work, squirters, transmitting feelings, bullying, running from police, aging graffiti scene, energy of youth, Futura, staying active on the street, studio paintings on canvas, blackbooks, bombing vs piecing, meeting Nace, cutting back, Agree, All-Out King, various stylistic games, Poor Things, catching a fill-in solo, the courage to break away from the 9 to 5, childhood, relationship with imagination, The Starving Artist, forecasting down times, life as a book, harmony, retreat, diversions, keeping your heart in it, being in nature, excitement of new places, reconnecting with pace of nature, experiencing death, animal vs human energy, Trenton deer, feeding squirrels in Mexico City, graffiti characters, Vivid Playful Depictions of Energy, original content, praise for replication, ball games, gyms, trademark styles, Egs, The Pocket, Ghost, arrows, personality in letterforms, how mood affects style, marker and sticker tags, traveling in an RV, online store, fulfillment from the road, interacting with fan base.

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Mike recalls memories from living in London and San Francisco in 1998. Topics discussed include: "Claire", Keri, Dek, Brighton, The Moon, throwups at Meanwhile, graffiti over graffiti, UFO, Abstract, Phunkateck, Ed Rush, Optical, Sage, Eklektic, GHB, Grove Park Yard with Egs, Network SouthEast trains, Trans Am show, Camdentown, Psycho, breaking car mirrors, removing fingerprints from spray cans, foiled mission at Uckfield Station, Brighton Yard, window-down on BritRail train, Kill All Cars, high speed car chase, falling through a roof, head wound, returning to San Francisco, brief stay with Claire, Jase, Laura, moving into a room near McAllister and Arguello, Kearny Book and Video, North Beach, cool manager, video arcades, cleaning crew, 4-hour videos for homeless people, The Thursday Guy, poppers (amyl nitrate), growing dislike of porn, Animal, Rosie the tweaker flower salesman, The Swiper, Bigfoot, Sam Flores, Kodik Joe, City Lights Bookstore, Jack Kerouac and Charles Bukowski, Avery, Skullz Press, Lisa, solo graffiti mission, Justo from Detroit, Dame, 3rd Street Yard, painting fast, getting tattoo from Nalla, Dase ATT, trackside with KR, Krink, failed mission in Safeway Tunnels, Noah Hurwitz, Imagination Plantation, Wild Brain, 2-week notice at porn shop, Twist, texture mapping, Hershey’s kisses commercials, stop-motion animation, Mac and Silicon Graphics computers, Maya, Fern Gully scenes, Toon Render, Golden Eye 007, painting walls with Dalek, getting tattoo equipment from Nalla, red foil National shader, tattooing left leg, tattooing friends for free, 22nd and Illinois wall, Chris Woodcock, Willy Wonka candy, KFC, Jets, replacing bus shelter posters with Apex, Kaws.

Mike recalls memories from living in London in 1998. Topics discussed include: Losing weight, skateboarding daily, Wandsworth, Tom and Honor, Brixton, Dogstar, Prince Albert, The Sun, Irish red cream ale, Guinness, Keri, crooked teeth, The Plumber, Soho and Covent Garden, black latex, after-hours bars, night bus, sneaky sex, Nicole, Wired magazine, Designers Republic, Attik, happy hour at the pub, house parties, housing developments, weed homies with American accents, spliffs vs joints, White Widow, Bored: Snow Skate and Surf Graphics, Patrick Burgoyne, Tomato, DJ Food/Ninja Tune, starting a record label, Will Bankhead, Mo’ Wax records, Futura2000, A to Zed guide, Dek from Art Crimes, Sensa, Irish homies, Valentine’s Day rave at Brixton Academy, Daniel Pemberton, Megatripolis, Sounds of the Asian Underground, Talvin Singh, Squarepusher, heart tattoo on big screen, Rough Trade records, Russell Maurice (Gasface) and Pinky, Egs, Camberwell College of Arts, Maharishi, zines, 12oz Prophet poster, blackbook collages, Photek Kung Fu Night, Wagon Christ/Luke Vibert show, Metalheadz night at The Blue Note in Hoxton, DJ Loxy, sweating ceiling, Fabio and Grooverider, Chemistry and Storm, Goldie, Ser, The Dole, murals, Chromes, Hammerite, undercoat black, radiator white, high security on Chunnel line, production with Ser, morning photo mission and a crazy chase.

Mike recalls memories from living in San Francisco and London in 1997. Topics discussed include: Oak Street house, “Allie”, Noah Hurwitz, @111MinnaGallery, latex pants, waxing, Skin Two, loft on 11th, @california_choppers, the red bathroom, Patsy Cline songs, pre-sex routine, condoms, loft on Natoma, 6th Street, mirrored wall, cat attack, @dozegreen, basement studio, loft mural, Future Primitive Sound Session, Twist mural, Doze live painting, @bukueone, @dalek2020, abstract graffiti, collab with @obeygiant at Fashion Valley Yard, tunnel spot with @zanekingcade and @persue1, Paint Louis, “Duhkha”, @saberawr, Texas crew, @ed_rush, Eklectik, Kate O’Briens, Think skateboards, Fausto Vitello, The Chameleon, Kodik Joe, passed out drunk, Irish visitors, move to London, Wandsworth, Tom Brogan, Clapham Junction, A Clockwork Orange, working freelance, veggie sausages, kebab shops, fish and chips, corn on pizza, cheese scone and a coffee, Victoria Station, Spraycan Art, Westbourne Park/Ladbroke Grove, @mode2offical, @original_bando, Fume, Art Crimes (graffiti.org), Auto K spray paint, SER, undercoat and radiator paint, Camden Market, mixtapes, Cantelowes, Stockwell, Kennington Bowl, Meanwhile 2 (Royal Oak), Southbank, Bay Area uniform, London street fashion, Black Market Records, @metalheadzmusic, @mrgoldie, The Blue Note, @loxycylon, @fabioandgrooverider, @ltj_bukem.

Mike gives a recap of his recent road trip through the South. Topics discussed include: The Silver Skillet in Atlanta, heavy police presence, Little 5 Points, The Clothing Warehouse, poster sale at Swag Shop in Edgewood, @killermike (Run The Jewels), active shooter, barber shop vibes, cheap shots in plastic bottles, Benihana, the Blue Flame, smoking weed in the strip club, endless $5 lap dances, breakfast with @keet_313 at Folk Art in Decatur, drive to New Orleans, low water pressure, Gabe/Mortal Machine Studio, @BeeGats, Coop’s Place, alcohol to-go, French Quarter, The Ruby Slipper Cafe, Low Timers, White Lotus, Voodoo Museum, Café Du Monde, Bee’s rapport with street people, poster sale, M’s night out, @dum.slut, absinthe, Rick’s Cabaret, Maya, Summer, Indian Motorcycles, Sugar Bear choppers, drive to Houston, traffic mess, Slab Sundays, Christie’s, vintage row, House of Pies, indoor flea market, airbrushed T, construction crayons, Sylvan Beach, Third Planet, Dragon magazines, missed car show, Colorado strip club, $13 water bottles, Salt Creek Steakhouse, Whataburger, Fort Stockton, missing hotel, Paisano Pete, sopapillas, Lulu’s Stixx pool hall, Lotaburger, passing on our stash, The Thing, Tucson, Bianchi’s, Amy’s Donuts, pizza donation, hot tubbing, KG’s Westside Cafe, buying bullets in Yuma, dumped joint, clove cigarettes, Abby’s BBQ and seeing America from a car.

Mike gives a recap of his recent road trip through the South. Topics discussed include: Invite from Bee Gats to show with him in New Orleans, August road trip to St Louis, considering a move out of California, leaving San Diego on April 26th, 250K+ Prius, $5.29 a gallon, traveling with M, smoking joints on the highway, Campo Border Patrol Station, stashed joints, drug dog, inspection, Tatty Talk, poster boxes, “Splash”, using your own designs as tattoos, allowed to go, staying in Gilbert, saguaro cacti, desert dry sauna, strip clubs, M exploring bisexuality/possibility of threesome, flakers, varying rules, Black Bear Diner, Adam and Josh, hot tubbin, Broken Yolk, Knife City, throwing knives, Albuquerque, Little Anita’s, alcohol at elevation, sopapillas, Anodyne, playing pool, resin tables, Delano, Knockouts, old dude, Long Island Ice Tea, Jagermeister, tipping at the stage, glasses fetish, throwing money, raining wrong, pricing, lap dance from “L”, arranging threesome, meeting L in parking lot, surprising M, Chloe Cherry, sharp fingernails, mood lighting, CBD tincture, squirting, 3hr session, M got the shakes from elevation/inebriation, breakfast at Garcia’s, Old Town, Palm’s Trading, repainting wall at Black List Tattoo, M got sunburned, dizziness, poster sale at All Is One, bonus treats, dinner at Cracker Barrel, getting recognized, mysterious lost joint, Caroline’s Choice, Texas and Oklahoma State Troopers, boot outlet, Oklahoma City, Hooters, nude tights, Victor Lopez, street trucks, Uneekbilt, Night Trips, Andrew Blake porn movies, bikers and cigarettes, ceiling twerking, Bentonville, Lauren and Poppy, Walmart Town, visit with Mike Peters in southern Missouri, Waffle House, Nashville, overpriced parking, Black Shag, Parthenon, statue of Athena, Roswell’s Harley, blocked porn sites, Stella Barey/OnlyFans, Hattie B’s Hot Chicken, Broadway bars/live music, Metallica covers, Tootsie’s Orchid Lounge, Hustler Club, No Hands state, Kimura, exchanging info, Chattanooga, Poor Taste, Atlanta, Skyview Ferris wheel, Gentlemen’s Club.

Mike has a conversation with Dr. Cole Marta and Brooke Balliett, LMFT of the California Center for Psychedelic Therapy. Recorded Sunday, April 2nd at the Center. Topics discussed include: Preparing set and setting for a psychedelic trip, dosage differences in individual people, Ego Death, surrendering to a trip, resistance, Creatives, sharpening by amphetamines, Alex Grey, the Community of trippers, experimenting with shrooms during COVID lockdowns, Ketamine use for preventing suicide, Ecstasy vs Molly, research chemicals, dancesafe.org, Schedule One Drug License, research pharmacies, variations in unregulated street drugs, regular doses, benefits of regulated drugs, clinical benefits for mental health patients, importance of set and setting, protecting friends from bad drugs, buying drugs online, Ketamine’s similarity to Nitrous, Spiritual connection, Ketamine therapy cycle, belief in God, ancient use of psychedelics, Ancient Greeks, Salem Witch Trials, Ketamine primarily used to treat depression and PTSD, common ground of psychedelic trips and deep meditation states, Default Mode Network, changes in cognition/perspective/emotionality, visuals, psychedelic replications, Replications Sub Reddit, trippy dream of Ketamine high, new client intake, prep before treatment, submitting to the process, the power of getting started, center vs clinic, unsafe feeling resulting from trauma, pre-verbal trauma, Ketamine as anesthetic, MDMA’s power to helping client feel safe, treating depression with psilocybin, “Being depressed is the opposite of being excited about being alive”, debilitating depression, spectrum of personality traits, Zendo, Burning Man, lack of guidance at raves, Adavan, duration of trips, staying up overnight on LSD, post-rave kit, inability to fall asleep, feeling a trip coming on, improved dancing ability, DJ RAW, raves as church, the body as a conduit for sound, fractals in nature, tapping into new levels of being, inability to understand language while on LSD, A-Ha moments/changing perspectives, seeing through cultural illusions, “Watching the news on acid is a bad idea”, DMT, feeling of immobility, short duration, NN (orange resin) vs 5MEO (frog venom), Hamilton’s Pharmacopeia, 5MEO flashbacks, using cannabis and psilocybin as entry points to the psychedelic experience, tardigrades, importance of good sourcing, situational awareness while high, Erowid.org and FiresideProject.org.

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Mike recalls memories from living in San Francisco in 1996. Topics discussed include: Ben Lovejoy, apt at 8th and Geary, worst roommate ever, coke fiend girlfriend, blood splattered walls, Damon Soule, Oak Street house, anarchist John, Food Not Bombs, feeding soup to the homeless, Burning Man, Masako, internal allergy, Maseo, pulling off a daytime non-permission spot, Jeff Rafnson, X-Files, Alysha, hospital stories, Barbie cool heads, Chris Woodcock, Scribble Jam, Dalek, Jaser (aka Rapes), Lead, Emit, Pose, East, El Paso, Aug, Fokis, dark freights, colorblind/night vision, oversized photocopies, paintings freight Big5 and Amaze, refrigerator cars, sideshows, Twist (aka Barry McGee), USF wall, C4, Cycle, photo trading with SMK, Gaze, Evade (aka Dave Schubert), Oakland Tracks, Dream, Vogue, Jase, using a messenger bag to hop a fence, inspirations from LSD, ACID piece, Susan Farrell (Art Crimes), Krash, windowpane, GIANT simple piece, stamp, Persué, Nyse, Zane, Heroin, Juxtapoz graffiti interview, Kelly Krantz, Adrenalin skateboards, vagina monster on Front Street and Adore (aka Reyes).

Mike continues to recall memories from living in San Francisco in 1995. Topics discussed include: 8th and Geary apartment, Kodik Joe, Clifton Carter, working at Think Skateboards, The Dirty Dildo, High Speed Productions, Conqr, RJD2, George Washington High School, Cram, regional handstyles, Club Deco, DJ Qbert, Invisibl Skratch Piklz, scratching in stereo, latex gloves, lying to cops, Psycho City, 4th of July, Fame Whore, Coliseum Yard, TDK crew, Dream, Meut, Friday nights on KUNM, Krash, painting on LSD, Susan Farrell, ArtCrimes (graffiti.org), nonsense words as tag names, symmetrical pieces, using brick walls as a grid, increased focus from cannabis use, consistent straight bars versus tapering curves, creating new styles, 20th and Illinois wall, Twist, Reminisce, KR, Sope and Felon, Front Street wall, Lords crew, Rules of Going Over, trippy Goth girl, The Blue Danube, Shoot a Tagger fliers, Tie’s murder, Amarjit and Narangkar, Sikhs, Sam Flores, painting trucks on Christmas night, refinishing and painting my 1965 Pontiac Tempest.

Mike recalls memories from 1995. Topics discussed include: Photographic memory, moving to 8th and Geary with Ben Lovejoy, America Online, trading porn, personal ads, Sugar Daddy, shoulder massage in the round, back door access, King Street Garage, Club Universe, raver pack, flag dancers, bathrooms at gay clubs, video sex parties, Alexandra, awkward threesome, college graduation, squirt isn’t pee, big Goth lady, Hamburger Haven, Robin Williams, Coors Yard, Emeryville, Bukue, Joker, Home Base raves, Lept and Set, individual dance styles, circle dancers, Ernest, San Jose house style, Greg Carroll, UFOs, heavy hallucinations, morning-after Denny’s, Flax girl, Don Fisher, Charles Manson, Sunday nights at Club Deluxe, Swing dancing scene, Tribal Japan tour, Bobby Ruiz, Carl Arellano, Kien Lieu, John Reeves, Zodak, Yokohama (actually Nagoya), Shiori, kyogin, no means no, care packages, shrooms with Carl, foggy death ride, raves in San Diego, DJ Quark, dykes dropping knowledge, Jessica, raver love, Merilee, shuffleboard, Wednesday boyfriend, candlelit bath, menthol gel, Jon, The Family, drying out lsd and deckled edges.

Mike recalls memories from the last half of 1994. Topics discussed include: Black and grey fineline tattoos in Albuquerque in 1980, weekend flea market, Catholic and prison imagery, tattoo magazines, Guy Aitchison, biomechanical style, first tattoo, Mr. Went, jail rigs, Sharpie backpieces, Joker IHU, graffiti armband, issues with visible tattoos, Gator, stretching skin, Mom cried, symbolic intensity, Everlasting Tattoo, bottle rocket battles, Mike Davis, Ed Hardy, simple vs painterly coloring, George Campise, Aaron Cain, robotic vs visceral biomech, tribal style, Borneo, Greg Kulz, Nalla Smith, shitty upper leg tattoos, Greg Carroll, Tattoo City, second armband, professional confidence, graffiti humility, how apprenticeships worked, cautious entry into the trade, shop styles, Chris Conn, Colin Stevens, what time of day to get tattooed, Think tattoo on E, MDMA therapy, Igor, Primal Urge, Marcus Pacheco, anti-cop tattoos, second level shop, Tim Lehi, Jeff Rassier, almost getting impaled, learning from tattooers, Adrenalin Skateboards, Sam Flores, Jaya Bonderov and bold tattoos.