Matheos Mesfin, Founder and Executive Director of the Institute for East African Councils, on IEA Councils' mantra for their work~ "I always say that the mantra for our work is that there's no growth in comfort, and so the more concentration you have with the same kind of people, the more your comfort zone will cement. So we interject and we take them out of that comfort zone and say, "Go to school in rural Massachusetts." Matheos Mesfin - Founder and Executive Director of IEA Councils with host Andy Ockershausen in-studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Andy Ockershausen, and this is Our Town with a very special conversation with a young man that I happened to... I mean literally this was an accident. I was at an affair in the city and Our Town about Washingtonian of the Year and Donald Graham, who has been a friend for 50 years, says to me, "There's a young man here that's being recognized today I want you to meet. He is going to make a huge impact on parts of Our Town." When Donald asks, we all react. I don't care what we do because he's such a big part of Our Town and a great guy and a wonderful man. I said, Donald, okay, what do you got?" He said, "This young man is from East Africa. He's a resident of the United States now, and he's got a program that we're rewarding here today at the Washingtonian." Matheos Mesfin is a young man who's well dressed. He looks like a million dollars. He's getting an award that day. I said, "Donald, when you ask, I can't refuse," and he introduced us. I was so overwhelmed by your presence because you make a great impact, a great presentation as a wonderful guy. Without even knowing you, I thought we had some good vibes, and with Donald involved I couldn't avoid it. So Matheos, welcome to Our Town. You're making an impact, and we love it. Matheos Mesfin: It's such a pleasure to be here. Thank you for taking your time inviting me, and I hope that we'll make this presentation worth it. Thank you so much. From Ethiopia to Our Town to Grinnell College in Iowa and back to Our Town Andy Ockershausen: You're from Ethiopia. Matheos Mesfin: Yes. Andy Ockershausen: You were born in Ethiopia. How long have you been in Our Town? Matheos Mesfin: I immigrated here in 2007, end of 2007. Andy Ockershausen: That's no time at all. It's 12 years. Matheos Mesfin: That's no time at all, absolutely, and so 12 years. Spent three years at a DC public school before I settled in Iowa for undergrad. Andy Ockershausen: The Grinnell College. Matheos Mesfin: The Grinnell College. Andy Ockershausen: That's a very famous school. Matheos Mesfin: Famous for its hipsters and its very liberal views. I settled there four years, came back, and I got my first job in DC in higher ed, and the rest is history. So I've been here ever since. Andy Ockershausen: You're the director at IEA Councils. Matheos Mesfin: Yes, yes. I- Andy Ockershausen: Did you create the position? On Founding the Institute for East African Councils on Higher Education Matheos Mesfin: I did. I did. I established the Institute for East African Councils on Higher Education. It is a mouthful, so the abbreviation's what we commonly refer to as IEA Councils. It really stemmed from the idea that this area as hub for a lot of East Africans. It has hundreds of thousands of Ethiopians, a very robust Eritrean, Somali, Sudanese students and just diaspora all together. So we have seen that these students have created these cultural enclaves and they're not really reaching their full potential because they're limited to what their communities say or how their communities define college and school all together. With that in mind, I saw my transition to Grinnell as a very unique opportunity, and with that came the obligation to make sure that these wonderful students also reach their potentials by matriculating to top notch schools. Andy Ockershausen: That is a wonderful, wonderful... I hope it's going to work through fairly well,

Jimmy Lynn on what went into his decision to stay in Our Town after grad school ~ "When I was coming out of AU after grad school, a couple mentors pulled me aside and said, you think you might need to move to New York or LA? I wasn't sure. And they said, you might be a small fish in a big pond. Why not stay here in DC where you can be a big fish in a medium sized pond." Jimmy Lynn, Entrepreneur, Servant Leader and Georgetown Professor and host Andy Ockershausen in studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Our Town. This is Andy Ockershausen. And this is such, I say this in all sincerity, a great, great opportunity and a pleasure to talk to a friend for many, many years. At one time, a big part of WMAL radio. Things have changed, Jimmy. The big days that you and I grew up are gone. But to have you in this studio to me is special and Jimmy Lynn, welcome to Our Town. Jimmy Lynn: Thank you, Andy. It's so great to be back to see you. To see Janice. To be back at the studios from back in the 80s when WMAL and Q107 were the kings of media. Andy Ockershausen: Jimmy, at one time we were the kings of media and we're still ... And Janice is the queen of media now. Jimmy Lynn: We know that. Andy Ockershausen: But Jimmy, if you recall, and I know you do, you got started in the business here. You were fortunate at the time as I was, because I started as you did. I started at the bottom and worked my way down. And you have done so much with your life and I want to talk about it but your DC career, to me, is special. You're a local guy that grew up here and made something out of being a local. Doing Business in Our Town – Big Fish, Medium Pond Jimmy Lynn: Yeah. No, that was very important to me. When I was coming out of AU after grad school, a couple mentors pulled me aside and said, you think you might need to move to New York or LA? I wasn't sure. And they said, you might be a small fish in a big pond. Why not stay here in DC where you can be a big fish in a medium sized pond. And you and Charlie Brotman told me the importance of networking and relationship building, shaking hands, and once you look someone in the eye to do business. So they said stay in DC. You're going to make friends. You're going to business together. You're going to celebrate together. You're going to go to funerals together. You have a chance to become the old boy network which you and Charlie were. Andy Ockershausen: Well, Jimmy, you're so right. And I had an opportunity yesterday to talk to a bunch of young people in something called Leadership Greater Washington. I happened to be one of the founders of the organization in 1986 and '87 was our first class. Nothing has changed, Jimmy. That's over 30 some years ago and it's still networking, getting around, connect the dots. There's no secret to be a success. Show up. Return your phone calls. Andy O, Jr. Jimmy Lynn: I don't think I've told you this but a couple of people have told me, Jimmy, you have one of the top five or top 10 rolodexes in the DC business community. And people used to call me Andy O, Jr. I always took that as a big compliment because you were the most connected guy in town. Andy Ockershausen: Well, because, I still use the old Rolodex. I can't use this thing that you have, Jimmy. And Janice does it. Ken does it. But I'm a dead duck. I can't do it. But my Rolodex is important to my life because I pop up names on there that I haven't talked to in years and suddenly there they are in my Rolodex. And people use me for references and I appreciate it so much. But Jimmy you learned the lesson. But learning it is one thing, executing it in which you did, your career, I never understood what a double alumnus is. American University Communications and Marketing Jimmy Lynn: I went to American University. I have my Communication degree as undergrad and then MBA in Marketing. Andy Ockershausen: I went to American University myself when I was an intern at WMAL.

Phil Hochberg on revenue generation in Major League Baseball today ~ "Well, interestingly, Major League Baseball is now suffering attendance losses over the past few years, but Major League Baseball is making more money than it ever had because of the media rights and everything . . . everything has just changed so much. It is no longer just radio. It is no longer radio and television. It is not radio, television and cable. It is the Internet. It is the streaming services. It is just everything." Phil Hochberg - Former Voice of the Redskins and Lawyer with host Andy Ockershausen in-studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Our Town. This is Andy Ockershausen. In a conversation with not only a friend, but I would say a world known friend from doing his work as the public address announcer for so many of Washington sports teams that they could hear you all over the world because of the coverage. Welcome to Our Town, Phil Hochberg. Phil Hochberg: Thank you Andy. Thank you very much. Andy Ockershausen: And a local guy that made good. Phil Hochberg: Well, I don't know if I made good, the old Frank Sullivan line, the Frank Sullivan picture with the Boston Red Sox. He said, "I'm in the twilight of a mediocre career." So I don't know if made good is the right word, but, thanks a lot. Andy Ockershausen: Well, I had a friend said that but a difference is, I'm in the top three of the mediocres, you know, so I can live with that. But Phil, you went to high school here at Wilson? Wilson High School | American University | Syracuse | George Washington Law School | Federal Communications Commission Career Start Phil Hochberg: I did. I did. Andy Ockershausen: And I had thought you had gone and switched to the University of Maryland, but you didn't. Phil Hochberg: No. I went to Wilson and then one semester at American U, and then I transferred to Syracuse. Graduated from Syracuse, came back here, went to GW law school and began practicing law in 1965 with the FCC. Andy Ockershausen: TC or CC. Phil Hochberg: FCC. Andy Ockershausen: The Federal Trade? Phil Hochberg: The Federal Communications Commission. Andy Ockershausen: Oh, federal, I know it quite well. Phil Hochberg: Your friend Dick Wiley. Andy Ockershausen: Oh yeah. We had a ton of friends on the FCC that was involved. Dean Burch. Phil Hochberg: I guess you did. Harry was a communications lawyer himself. Andy Ockershausen: Absolutely. But Phil, I had really never knew about you in those days because my very relationship with you has always been through the sports world, not through the legal world, but you've had quite a career in the legal world as both a rep and an adviser, correct, to leagues and sports teams? Practicing Law 54 Years | Member of Firm to Sole Practioner | NFL, NBA, NHL, Nascar Phil Hochberg: I have represented, and still do represent the National Football League, the National Basketball Association, the National Hockey League, NASCAR in a very limited area dealing with communications and cable, satellite, copyright, very limited. People ask me when I'm going to retire, been practicing now for 54 years, and I say that right now I'm looking at 2021 so that I can be able to say I've represented the National Hockey League for 50 years. Andy Ockershausen: Wow. Phil Hochberg: Which is a pretty good relationship with the client. Andy Ockershausen: Well, wait a minute. It's a good relationship anytime. That is great Phil. You obviously have delivered a service that they appreciate. It's been 50 years. Phil Hochberg: Yeah. Yeah. Andy Ockershausen: But you are representing them as a agent or representing them as a lawyer? Phil Hochberg: As a lawyer representing the league. Andy Ockershausen: The league, right. Phil Hochberg: In terms of regulatory and administrative issues and legislative issues affecting the National Hockey League and some of the other leagues too. Andy Ockershausen: But you operate as a member of the firm. Correct?

Lisa Baden on internal conflict of the overwhelming desire to be first to report, and the discipline to verify before: So I had to confirm it and I was like chomping at the bit. We're calling M Dot. We're calling Transportation. We're calling the police. Well finally we got confirmation. Yes. A tar truck just turned over and that was hours of cleanup. I mean hours but so although I would love to be first, I desire accuracy more. Lisa Baden, Traffic Reporter and Radio Personality, with host Andy Ockershausen in-studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Our Town. It's Andy Ockershausen and what an absolute treasure and pleasure it is for Janice and I to welcome a very, very famous person in our life and a life of broadcasting. Miss Lisa Baden. Lisa Baden: Aw. Thank you. Andy Ockershausen: Lisa, you know to see you in the flesh after all these years of watching you on camera, because I grew up in the business as you know and to see what you had you matured and all the good things you had done. I had the opportunity to hear I traffic reporter in Chicago and a policemen riding around in a helicopter. And I thought that would be a great idea. And it came back and with our program director we started, we got a policeman out of the DC police department, a sergeant, in the traffic division and put him in a helicopter. We paid for the helicopter. The city provided the cop and we did airborne traffic in like 1962 or 63 can you believe that? Lisa Baden: Really? Andy Ockershausen: That is many years ago. It's 55 years ago. We were doing it and it started the whole traffic war because after we did it, Captain Dan came along. Lisa Baden: That's right. Andy Ockershausen: You remember Captain... On Captain Dan Lisa Baden: Captain Dan. Sure. He landed his helicopter at my elementary school. And I'll never forget it. Andy Ockershausen: Was he great? Janice Iacona Ockershausen: That was the beginning of your career. You said that's what I want to be when I grow up. Andy Ockershausen: Well, he originally was in a helicopter and then we had him in a fixed wing, he had his own airplane. But we always believe Lisa, when we could afford it traffic and how important it is. And you've epitomized the importance. You did yours, your big stick here at WMAL WTOP. I mean, the call letters are magic. So Lisa, we're so happy to have you live and in color. Lisa Baden: Thank you. It's an honor to be here. Really is. Andy Ockershausen: Well, you grew up in the business and you've been at it a long time and the changes you have incurred are unbelievable to me. And I'm a native born raised or maybe you're not raised, but it's certainly a native. The city is exploded now. I hate to go out and traffic cause there's traffic everywhere. On Evolution of Traffic Reporting in Our Town Lisa Baden: Yes, it is everywhere. It's a matter of fact. The thing I hate the most about my job is what pays my mortgage. And that's the traffic. It's just crazy. Andy Ockershausen: And there's no drive time. We had a drive time in radio, it was between seven and nine when it was really...and no, no, now it's between five and 10 now. Lisa Baden: Right. Andy Ockershausen: Or more. And you've seen it. Lisa Baden: That's true. As a matter of fact, I was the first overnight traffic reporter in Washington, DC and that was for WMAL. Because they had the forethought. Thinking wait a minute we're missing the boat here. Because not everybody works nine to five. And there's a lot of people who work overnight shifts, in the government and everything. And it was amazing. So they started with overnight and I remember doing that for WMAL years and years... Andy Ockershausen: Was Bill Mayhugh still here? Was that what you were doing? Lisa Baden: Yes. Absolutely. Andy Ockershausen: Because when Bill first started, I found out through the grapevine, his popularity was with the military because there's so many people work all night in a greater Washington area.

Marianne Haney Brennan on the importance of manners today ~ "We need to get back to being kind to each other. . .we're in a sad state of affairs right now and it breaks my heart. And that's why I teach etiquette from A to Z. I don't care. You know what? Time goes on but manners don't change. Manners are manners. Whether they were the 1800s or they're the 2019." Marianne Haney Brennan, Etiquette Coach, and host Andy Ockershausen in studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Andy Ockershausen. This is Our Town speaking and I wanted to explain to her, this is not an interview. We are having a conversation. Marianne Brennan, welcome to Our Town. Marianne Haney Brennan: Andy I am so just excited to be here and honored. I can't tell you anything else other than that. Andy Ockershausen: Well I'm afraid to say Haney because nobody will know what that mean. Marianne Haney Brennan: Oh no, I love it call me Haney. Andy Ockershausen: But you know, Marianne Haney. Marianne is local, a local girl. As a matter of fact, she's fifth generation Washingtonian and her daughter is now six generation. I'm only third and I feel like a newcomer. Haney, it's amazing to see you and you look great. Marianne Haney Brennan is Fifth Generation Washingtonian Marianne Haney Brennan: Oh my gosh. Andy Ockershausen: And I've have known you for so long and follow your many different careers. But this one now is made for you, etiquette. Marianne Haney Brennan: Etiquette. It is. Andy Ockershausen: And you have a class in Georgetown. Where do you teach? Etiquette Coach | Custom Classes for Schools and Corporations Marianne Haney Brennan: No, actually I go all over. I custom make my classes. I'll do anything that parents want me to do. I've actually in the last six months been called in to places like Merrill Lynch and Smith Barney to talk to the young guys. Andy Ockershausen: To the guys. Marianne Haney Brennan: About proper dressing, shined shoes, all that good stuff that has seemed to be lost in the shuffle. Andy Ockershausen: I don't think so Marianne. Because guys need help too. Marianne Haney Brennan: Oh totally. Andy Ockershausen: As you well know, this etiquette is not just important to the young ladies, but I found it's true that most men are very rude and they need etiquette. And these companies you mentioned are big, big companies. Marianne Haney Brennan: Big companies, yeah. Andy Ockershausen: So you don't travel to school, you travel you. Epidemic of Undisciplined Children Marianne Haney Brennan: Well because I'm sort of connected in the Catholic school system, being a Catholic graduate, I know a lot of people in that realm. I was trying to get into some of the public schools, but it's a little tougher to get in there. There's so many rules and regulations and they all need it. Listen, we have an epidemic, epidemic of undisciplined children. And I don't want to sound negative or anything but- Andy Ockershausen: No it's not negative. It's important. Marianne Haney Brennan: I was sitting and having some yogurt around the corner here before I came over, and I'm watching people who are sitting with each other having lunch and they've got headphones on and they're not even in conversation. Andy Ockershausen: You're preaching to the choir with me. They don't pay attention. Marianne Haney Brennan: Not at all. No. And part of the problem is we're all moving too fast. We're moving too fast. We've got too many electronic things going on. Nobody wants to take time out to say hello or smile or be considerate. Andy Ockershausen: You know, I'll tell you my story in a minute, but we were just talking to Tom Davis who has been a congressman and did a great job for northern Virginia, talking to the fact that social media is really, the culprit has changed our world, forever. Marianne Haney Brennan: Absolutely. Absolutely. Andy Ockershausen: I don't think we'll ever go back. Marianne Haney Brennan: Absolutely.

Tom Davis on politics today in Northern Virginia~ They've done it to themselves because they've emphasized these social issues, in an area that's becoming much more widely diverse, instead of focusing on the bread and butter and the economic issues that basically decide the success or not of every jurisdiction. They just priced themselves out of the market. So even where they were right on a number of issues, you had young people, people of color, just pushing the mute button when you had the Republican label. Tom Davis - Retired Congressman and Rector, George Mason University and host Andy Ockershausen in-studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Our Town and this is Andy Ockershausen and we're so fortunate to have a friend for many, many years who sort of disappeared part of our life, but thank God, not totally. Congressman Tom Davis, welcome to Our Town. Tom Davis: Andy, it's great to retire from my life of quiet anonymity to come on to your show. Andy Ockershausen: Tom, I can't tell you Tom, how much I miss you and seeing your career and being a part of your life, whether you like it or not, WMAL was because- Tom Davis: Absolutely. Andy Ockershausen: And I was involved with the Alexandria Group there and the good old days when we elected people, but you can't get a Republican elected in Alexandria now with a search warrant. But Tom, you've done so well. 14 years in Congress? Tom Davis - 29 Years of Public Service | Former United States Congressman and Fairfax County Board Member Tom Davis: Right, and I was 15 years on the County Board in Fairfax before that. Andy Ockershausen: You were? That's 29. That's half your life. Tom Davis: 29. Yeah, I know. Well it was more than half- Andy Ockershausen: The Arlington County board? Tom Davis: I mean, less than half my life now. Andy Ockershausen: That was the ABC guy? Tom Davis: No, this was the Fairfax County. Andy Ockershausen: Oh, Fairfax County? Tom Davis: Yeah, yeah. Andy Ockershausen: I remember my friend Bob Peck was on the Arlington Board for a while. Reminiscing - Local Political Races Tom Davis: Oh my goodness. I remember all those races, because I grew up on those races in Arlington. Andy Ockershausen: You're an Arlington guy, right? Tom Davis: In Arlington, yeah. I remember Hal Casto. Do you remember Hal Casto? He was on the Board. Andy Ockershausen: Very well. I remember the name. Tom Davis: Ned Thomas, they owned the cemetery. He was on the County Board. Andy Ockershausen: The cemetery? He lived on the cemetery? Tom Davis: He did. He did. Andy Ockershausen: He and his wife lived on a cemetery? The Cemetery Story Tom Davis: In fact, we ran a registration drive there one year on the cemetery, and we get to this really old tombstone to get it appropriately registered and we couldn't read the name. We're putting the flashlight on. We're trying to put a paper over it and engrave it, and figure out what's the name. Somebody comes and says, "Davis, we gotta get outta here. The cops are going to be here in a few minutes." I said, "Wait a minute. This man has just as much right to vote as everybody else in here." Andy Ockershausen: He's one of us, the good Republican. You couldn't find one now with a search warrant, I'll guarantee you. Tom, but you're a local guy. You grew up in Arlington. Tom Davis: Right. Andy Ockershausen: And that's a big part of your life is Northern Virginia. It's been there your whole life, your whole college career was in Northern Virginia. On Growing Up | Family and Education | Full Scholarship to Amerherst Tom Davis: Except for army, college, and basically law school. Yeah, that's it. Andy Ockershausen: Where was college? Tom Davis: Amherst, in Massachusetts. Andy Ockershausen: Amherst, a good school. Wow! Tom Davis: They gave me a full scholarship. It was not a hard choice. Andy Ockershausen: Amherst is one of the schools for the, you know, the silver spoon. Tom Davis: I was lucky.

Mahan Tavakoli on connecting and networking in Our Town region~ Leadership Greater Washington . . . brings people from different backgrounds, different industries, and different parts of our region together. But there's also a connection to meaning . . . All of us want to connect and network, want to do good and have meaning in our work lives, in our networking. So Leadership Greater Washington allows for the senior leaders in the region to address those issues and have meaning in terms of their involvement. Mahan Tavakoli, Servant Leader, Strategic Leadership Ventures and Leadership Greater Washington, and host Andy Ockershausen in-studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Andy Ockershausen. This is Our Town, and I have the opportunity to talk to a wonderful, wonderful man who means so much to this community, to Our Town. He was one of the leading business executives in my estimation. Mahan Tavakoli, welcome to Our Town. Mahan Tavakoli: Andy, thank you very much. I am super excited to be here with you as your guest. Andy Ockershausen: Well, yeah, I know you've been telling me that and I am so flattered because you're an important man, Mahan. You've made a tremendous impact on this town. So let's talk about pre WMAL, and pre Washington D.C. What was Mahan doing? Are you a native of D.C.? Mahan Tavakoli - A Washingtonian from Iran Mahan Tavakoli: Yeah, so Andy, my parents are from Iran and the first few years of my life I actually lived in Iran. Andy Ockershausen: Oh, you did? Mahan Tavakoli: I did. Yes and- Andy Ockershausen: Of all these years, Mahan, I never knew that. I never knew that. That's wonderful, I think for your parents. Mahan's Dad - A Servant Leadership Attitude Mahan Tavakoli: It is. It is. And we settled. My Dad traveled a lot for his work, but we settled right here in Bethesda on Wilson Lane. Andy Ockershausen: Wow, a thoroughfare. What business was your dad in? Mahan Tavakoli: He was with ITT when ITT was more of a telecommunications company. So he- Andy Ockershausen: ITT Worldwide. Mahan Tavakoli: They were worldwide. One of the best that eventually lost some traction. I tend to believe post my dad, they lost some traction. Andy Ockershausen: I heard a story about the man that was the president of ITT used to drive himself to work and brought his lunch. That's when he made that company great. I'll think of his name, very famous name, head of ITT, International Telephone and Telegraph. Nobody has a telegraph anymore, do they, Mahan? Mahan Tavakoli: No, they don't and Andy, what you mentioned is actually one of the things that had a big impact on my life. My dad also had a servant leadership attitude with respect to the role of the leader to the organization. So I think that had a big impact for me, as I ended up getting into the business community, I try to emulate a lot of what my dad had done. Andy Ockershausen: What a great role model though. Listen Mahan. Andy Ockershausen: When did you move to D.C.? You spent the first four years of your life in Iran? Mahan Tavakoli On Growing Up in Our Town Mahan Tavakoli: Yes. So right about middle school, right before middle school moved to D.C. Went to Washington International School right out there on Macomb Street. Andy Ockershausen: Oh yeah, that's right. Mahan Tavakoli: From there to Whitman, Maryland, Georgetown. So- Andy Ockershausen: A real local guy. Mahan Tavakoli: Absolutely. I said I'm not moving anywhere else for the rest of my life. I love it here. Andy Ockershausen: All these years I've known you, I never knew that, but I know you were involved in everything. So your dad must have taught you that to get involved and you have done that to a fare thee well. You brought so much to the table. Our Town Business Leaders Espouse Responsibility to Give Back to Community Mahan Tavakoli: Yeah, there's a big sense of responsibility, Andy, that I have. There is a great privilege that all of us have living in this region,

Deborah Marriott Harrison on Marriott's culture of putting people first~ And my grandfather started it by making a sign he put over the kitchen doors in the Hot Shops that says, "If you take care of the employee, the employee will take care of the customer and the customer will come back again and again." And we really pride ourselves in taking care of our associates. Deborah Marriott Harrison, Global Cultural Ambassador Emeritus Marriott International (r) and host Andy Ockershausen (l) in-studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Our Town. And I'm so delighted to have in one of the most important people in representing the families and I could probably, the number one family in Washington was the Marriott family, and I'm so delighted to have Debbie Marriott Harrison on Our Town. Welcome to Our Town, Debbie. Deborah Marriott Harrison: Thank you Andy. I'm delighted to be here. Andy Ockershausen: Well, our relationship, my relationship personally goes back to Marriott for many, many years before you were born, probably. Because being a big part of Our Town growing up at WMAL and Channel 7 and the Washington Star is my background, and you know what the Star was like when you were growing up in Our Town and- Deborah Marriott Harrison: Yeah, my brothers used to deliver the paper. Andy Ockershausen: I say, right. It was Our Town. It was a small town. What's happened now has been an explosion. But thank you for remembering that there is a WMAL that was in Our Town and thank you for what you have done for the Marriott Corporation and particularly when you worked at ... your story was working at the Key Bridge Marriott? Marriott's First Two Hotels - Twin Bridges and Key Bridge Hotels - A Bit of Our Town History Deborah Harrison: Yes. Andy Ockershausen: How many years? Deborah Marriott Harrison: Oh, just one summer after I had finished my freshman year. Andy Ockershausen: Oh, you just did it in the summer time. Deborah Marriott Harrison: Yes. I just did it for the summer and that was our second hotel and it is still our oldest hotel in our portfolio because the first hotel was the Twin Bridges Hotel. Andy Ockershausen: Do I remember that well. Deborah Marriott Harrison: Yeah. Opened in 1957 near the 14th Street Bridge and we sold that in the late 80s and there's nothing on that lot right now. It's an empty lot. Andy Ockershausen: The Windjammer Club. Deborah Marriott Harrison: Yes, The Windjammer Club. And- Andy Ockershausen: It was a bottle club I remember that well. Deborah Marriott Harrison: Sirloin and Saddle, the restaurant. Andy Ockershausen: Well, the motel opened up where it used to be a national airport and before national airport there was another field there- Deborah Harrison: Right. Hoover. Andy Ockershausen: Were Marriott had a catering business. Deborah Marriott Harrison: Yup. Hoover Field. And the Pentagon is, and the Pentagon is there now. Andy Ockershausen: And yeah. Right. And so that was the beginning of the catering business, but the hotel business, your grandfather opened that hotel, I remember it had a sign. It was the only sign I've ever seen on the 14th Street Bridge and the Washington signs, at the exit to get to the Marriott Hotel. Can you ... you were too young to know that. Deborah Marriott Harrison: I don't remember that. You're right. I don't remember. That's really neat. Andy Ockershausen: There was some political pressure to get that done. But it was done. The only motel that was highlighted on the bridge leaving town, was the Marriott Twin Bridges. And there were twin bridges and then Marriott got into the hotel business and then opened up in Rosslyn. Was that your next big hotel? Deborah Marriott Harrison: The next one, two years later was the one was Key Bridge in Rosslyn overlooking Georgetown and the river. Andy Ockershausen: And it was a real, a motor hotel. It was a small structure. Marriott Started Out in the Hotel Business with Motor Hotels

Caroline Carter, Author of Smart Moves, and Founder and CEO of Done in a Day, Inc., on the process of transitioning from home to home~ "But the reason I wrote the book was to allow people to say, okay, I get it. We all dread this process but we don't have to. Okay. There is a way that we can go through this and make very solid emotional, financial and physical decisions that will affect us over time." Caroline Carter, Founder and CEO, Done in Day, Inc. | Author, Smart Moves with host Andy Ockershausen in-studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Our Town and this is Andy Ockershausen to talk to a friend of many years who has shocked me beyond belief because I lost track of her, what, 10, 15 years ago in our neighborhood and now she's turned out to be a fabulous writer, I think. Caroline Carter, welcome to Our Town. Caroline Carter: Thank you, Andy. I'm pleased to be here. Andy Ockershausen: It is unbelievable what you have done in this book. Like you're new to me and yet you're not. You're ... we're friends for many years, but you've established a life about moving and everybody in the world eventually is going to move. Smart Moves - Demystifying the Moving Process Caroline Carter: Absolutely. Andy Ockershausen: So everybody's a potential client or potential to need your help and your book is fabulous. Caroline Carter: Oh, thank you. I'm so glad. Thanks. Andy Ockershausen: I'm not anxious to move because the problem of doing it, it's scary, but what you have written and for me to understand, man, it's terrific. Just terrific, Caroline. Caroline Carter: Well, I appreciate that. I think that the purpose of writing the book was to demystify this process. You know, when you say to someone or when you look at this statistic, for instance, that the US Census Bureau says that the average American moves 11 times throughout their lifetime and that's a lot of moving. Andy Ockershausen: That's just average. Caroline Carter: That's just average but Americans move more than any other culture. Andy Ockershausen: I saw that. Caroline Carter: And if you say to someone, you know, what do you think about moving? Well, the first thing they say is, I dread it. I absolutely dread it. So part of the reason why I wrote Smart Moves was to demystify the process for people. Andy Ockershausen: And showing the mover how to save time and money while transitioning your home and life. Caroline Carter: Exactly. Andy Ockershausen: Now that's important. The life thing. Caroline Carter: Sure. Andy Ockershausen: You've almost been, and in a lot of your work and your career, you've done some marriage counseling too. Caroline Carter: Oh, well no, no doubt about that. No doubt about that because everybody ... this is a very emotional process. Andy Ockershausen: It's always a strain on marriage, isn't it? A strain? Moving is a Strain on the Entire Family Caroline Carter: Well it's a strain actually on the entire family, including the pets and I say that because selling your home, okay, preparing it to sell and moving is one of the most stressful life changing events that a family can go through and everybody acts out because they don't know what to expect. They don't ... it's like being on a roller coaster, right? You kind of do in general know what to expect, but every ride is different and we all will go through this packaging of our homes to sell if we want to sell it at top dollar right, and then moving. But the reason I wrote the book was to allow people to say, okay, I get it. We all dread this process but we don't have to. Okay. There is a way that we can go through this and make very solid emotional, financial and physical decisions that will affect us over time. Andy Ockershausen: One of the not surprises because I can understand what you do after reading the book and the fact that you're not in the sales business, you're not trying to help somebody sell their house. You're having to get them ready to sell that.

Tom Sherwood on what he tells journalism students when asked about making Journalism a career: I tell every journalism student intern that I meet that one thing about being journalist, it opens doors to everything and anything that you want to see or do. I mean, I've been places and seen things . . . I never would have access to had I not fallen into the news business." Tom Sherwood, Analyst, WAMU's Politics Hour and Former WRC TV Politics Reporter and host Andy Ockershausen in-studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Our Town. This is Andy Ockershausen, starting part of what we hope will be a long fifth season. We are especially, especially... I mean this because I've been trying to get this guy for two years, and he finally agreed to do it, to be part of Our Town, because he's such a big part of Our Town. That's my friend, and ex-neighbor, and a guy I've admired for so many years. Welcome to Our Town, Tom Sherwood. Tom Sherwood: I see you had to read my name, so, so much for that introduction. Andy Ockershausen: Well, I could have called you Tom intro. Sherwood: Well, that's true. Yeah, Intro Tom. Andy Ockershausen: Intro Tom. Tom Sherwood: Thank you very much for having me. I'm sorry I couldn't come. I was busy in TV, but I'm happy to be here today. Atlanta and South Carolina | Tom Sherwood's Southern Family Andy Ockershausen: Now, he was a TV guy and he's still a TV guy as far as I'm concerned, because they miss him. Tom has a new life, and I'm so delighted that he stayed in our town, because he could have moved on. Tom, you're a media guy. You grew up in a lot of media. How did you ever get an accent, like a southern accent? Tom Sherwood: Well, having my mother give birth to me in Atlanta helped. I'm a southern family, through thick and thin. Family members came from South Carolina. I think they were indebted people from England, who came over to America to- Andy Ockershausen: To pay off the debt. Sherwood: To pay off the debts. Andy Ockershausen: Oh yeah. Tom Sherwood: And some of them... My great- Andy Ockershausen: Was it Oglethorpe, or something like that. Sherwood: Yeah, it wasn't any name like that. It's Sherwood. But anyways, yes. Andy Ockershausen: Sherwood Forest. Tom Sherwood's Distinct Voice Tom Sherwood: I have nothing to do with my voice. My brother, he's a year older. He has a completely different voice. Andy Ockershausen: People recognize the voice, Tom, of course because you've been in broadcast air for years, and years, and years. Sherwood: Yes, I would never rob a bank- Andy Ockershausen: With a TV career. Tom Sherwood: The police will say, "Just go pick up Sherwood," because they would know what the voice was. Andy Ockershausen: Why would a young boy from Atlanta, Georgia... How did you end up here? You went to high school and college in Georgia? On Growing Up in Atlanta, Georgia and Working for the Atlanta Journal Constitution Sherwood: Well, I went to high school, and I kind of went to college. I think I was a freshman for six years at Georgia State. It didn't really work out. Andy Ockershausen: That's in Atlanta, right? Tom Sherwood: Yeah, we have very similar things. You got your start as an intern, or an office clerk at WMAL? Andy Ockershausen: I got started at the bottom. Sherwood: Right. Well, right out of high school- Andy Ockershausen: Right out of high school. Tom Sherwood: I worked as a copy boy- Andy Ockershausen: Eastern High School. Sherwood: For The Atlanta Constitution. Andy Ockershausen: There you go, a great, great newspaper. Tom Sherwood: Yes. I saw an ad in The Atlanta Constitution, "Copy boys wanted," they didn't hire girls. I was a department store called Richs, which is like Woody's here in town. I looked up, and I could see The Atlanta Constitution sign. I thought, "This is kind of cool. I'll go see if I can work at the newspaper." They said, "Can you start tonight?" Andy Ockershausen: That is incredible.

Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D. on Amazon and future job and economic growth in Our Town~ They worked together to make this happen, and it will benefit the region broadly, but it isn't the final, it isn't all that is coming. This is just the beginning. We expect there to be almost 400,000 new jobs in the next 15 years and this is just 25,000 of them. Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D. and Our Town host Andy Ockershausen in-studio interview Andy Ockershausen: This is Andy Ockershausen and this is Our Town. I have been so excited to know that we could talk to this man and we could talk to him away from his usual role as the head of some meeting or group because I have been following him through the Washington Board of Trade since he first worked for GW. It was way back in the '60s I guess. Steve Fuller, welcome to Our Town. Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: Pleasure to be with you. Andy Ockershausen: You know, we think Our Town and we created the show - my Janice recreated it. We had a television program on channel 50 called Our Town. So Janice dug it up three years ago and said, "Why don't we do it again?" about the people that have impact in Our Town and we think Our Town is Upper Marlboro, it's Vienna, Virginia, it's as far north as Baltimore, it's as far south as Richmond. That's Our Town. We go all over and Steve Fuller, you've had such an enormous impact on that geographical selection, Our Town. Rutgers and Cornell Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: Well, I've been studying it for 50 years and I try to share some of my knowledge. So this is a great opportunity. Andy Ockershausen: I love your resume. I love your background. You grew up in New Jersey, I would take it. You went to Rutgers. Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: I did go to Rutgers. Andy Ockershausen: That's a state school, isn't it? Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: A state school. It's the sixth oldest university in the country. Andy Ockershausen: It's older than Princeton. Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: 1766, Queens College, it was then. Andy Ockershausen: Queens College. Well, wasn't William and Mary King's College at one time in Southern Virginia? I think it's something like that. There were only one of each, I know that. And you graduated from Rutgers in '62, but then it took you seven years to graduate from Cornell. Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: Well, I worked, I went out and worked. Andy Ockershausen: Oh, it didn't say that. Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: I took a few jobs. Andy Ockershausen: The way I read your resume, you graduated in '62 and then went to Cornell, high above Cayuga's waters, right? Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: That's right. Andy Ockershausen: And that launched you into a career by going to Cornell. Was that a special school for you? Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: I went there to get a PhD in Urban and Regional Planning and Economic Development, and I was there just for two years. Then I came to Washington in 1967, because I lucked out to get some financing from a small agency to fund my dissertation research on rural redevelopment. Andy Ockershausen: Wow! On Coming to Our Town Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: So I came down here with the promise of one year paycheck to do my research and write my dissertation, and then they hired me to stay on for a year and after that I went to GW in '69. Andy Ockershausen: And you became whether you planned or not, you became part of Our Town, a big part of Our Town. Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: I did. Andy Ockershausen: And you had had all the training to better urban development and training about how to judge markets and growth and so forth. So you were prepared to help at GW. Were you're the first one in that category at George Washington? George Washington University Opportunity - New Urban Regional Planning Department Stephen S. Fuller, Ph.D.: There was a new department at George Washington that offered a master's degree in Urban Regional Planning, and it just started up in 1968 and they needed a third faculty member,