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Adventures Through The Mind

James W. Jesso

Adventures Through The Mind is an interview-based podcast hosted by Canadian author and public educator, James W. Jesso.

  • 1 hour 55 minutes
    The Legal and Cultural Landscape of Psilocybin Mushrooms in Mexico | Mijal Schmidt ~ 187

    In this episode of the podcast, we explore the present day legal and political conundrum psilocybin mushrooms are facing as they sit on the verge of a significant change in their criminal status; the historical impact of mushroom tourism on the indigenous cultures that work with psilocybin; how that history is impacting those cultures today; and how all of this is influencing the complex political situation mushrooms now sit in the middle of.

    Our guest is Mijal Schmidt.

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    For links to Mijal's work, full show notes, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind187

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    Episode Breakdown

    • (00:00) Opening
    • (1:44) Episode Sponsor: Magicbag.co
    • (2:50) Patron Thanks
    • (3:35) Guest Bio
    • (4:44) Interview Begins
    • (6:40) The present legal/political landscape of psilocybin mushrooms in Mexico
    • (15:44) The involvement of indigenous peoples in the changing laws around mushrooms
    • (24:39) The conflicts that mushroom tourism has created between indigenous people and its impact on changing legislation
    • (37:39) What does it mean to be “poor” in a context of cultural richness
    • (43:51) The Mushroom Velada (indigenous mushroom ceremony)
    • (48:03) How the cultural context of mushroom use impacts what is offers the person taking them
    • (51:44) The modern “shamanic” traditions using psilocybin mushrooms in Mexico and the impact of mushroom tourism on those traditions
    • (58:53) The problems created by mushroom tourism in San Jose del Pacifico
    • (1:04:32) The potential spiritual extractivism of psychedelic tourism
    • (1:12:03) Doesn’t tourism—psychedelic and otherwise—offer economic benefits?
    • (1:19:30) The hope and the fear of what will come of the psychedelic renaissance
    • (1:30:28) The possibility of not knowing | asking ourselves what our healing is taking from others
    • (1:33:41) The limitations of me-focused psychedelic healing learning to think relationally
    • (1:37:47) Bringing play and joy back into life (and the conversation)
    • (1:40:50) Learning to think relationally
    • (1:43:55) What Mijal would like to see for the future of Psilocybin Mushrooms in Mexico
    • (1:53:10) Outro
    3 May 2024, 7:30 am
  • 1 hour 27 minutes
    Deep Time, Extinct Cephalopods, and The Evolutionary Gift of Death | Sky Otter ~ ATTMind 186

    Led by the inspiration of a cephalopod now extinct 66 million years, Sky Otter and I explore what is means to live our lives in alignment with life, creatively, and with heartbreak, grief, endings, and death as not only necessary parts of the process, but gifts that can deepen, enrich, and guide our limited days.

    Some of the topics we explore include ammonite as example of death and creative change in evolution; why life requires death and heartbreak is necessary; finding our way out of mass extinction through creativity in service to life; building heart-full community in relationship with Nature; deep Time and the ever-present is-ness of all things from all time; and why acting in alignment with life is a gift to all life, across all time.

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    For links to Sky's work, full show notes, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind186

    FULL TOPICS BREAKDOWN BELOW

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    Sky's previous features on ATTMind Podcast

    -▷ Episode 156: Deep Ecology, Earth Connection, and The Circle of Life

    -▷ Psychedelic Café 9, Why Our Sense of Connection Matters 

     

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    *** Huge thanks to my patrons on Patreon!

    In particular, my $23+ patrons; Andreas D, Ian C, Alex F, Eliz C, Joe A, —— 

     

    Episode Breakdown

    • (00:00) Opening
    • (02:04) Guest Bio
    • (03:43) Patreon Thanks
    • (05:38) Interview beings
    • (10:04) Ammonite as example of death and creative change in evolution
    • (15:40) Aligning with life beyond the individual self
    • (19:33) Finding our way out of mass extinction through creativity in service to life
    • (25:33) Life requires death; heartbreak is necessary
    • (29:45) Grief is natural, but easier said than done
    • (35:50) Building heart-full community in relationship with Nature
    • (38:49) The misappropriation of “trusting life” to bypass ecological responsibility
    • (46:33) Creativity and trusting life vs nihilism and numbing out in the face of ecological crisis
    • (50:11) The complexity, challenge, and benefits of living in alignment with life
    • (1:06:39) Deep Time and the ever-present is-ness of all things from all time
    • (1:12:39) Acting in alignment with life is a gift to all of life; why we DON’T feel connected with life
    • (1:22:20) I am because we are…
    • (1:24:54) Follow-up links and contact details
    • (1:26:03) Outro
    5 April 2024, 7:30 am
  • 1 hour 43 minutes
    How Psychedelics Can Help Us Make Sense Of The Meta-Crisis | Alexander Beiner ~ ATTMind 185

    Alexander Beiner joins us to explore how psychedelics can help us make sense of the meta-crisis.

    This includes topics like complexity tolerance and the overwhelming deluge of information in modern digital life; “How” and “why” we solve a problem is as important as the “what” of the solution itself; the mythological impact of sci-fi narratives on identity and perception; and whether AI will become a new god.

    Additionally, we speak on extended-state DMT (DMTx) and interacting with entities; overlaps in the perceptual impact of phenomena like DMT entities and UAPs; and emotionally managing the potential of our world slowly declining into a nightmare dystopian future.

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    For links to Beiner's work, full show notes, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind185

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    *** Huge thanks to my patrons on Patreon!

    In particular, my $23+ patrons; Andreas D, Ian C, Yvette FC, Alex F, Eliz C, Nick M, Joe A, and Heather S  —— 

     

    Episode Breakdown

    • (0:00) Opening
    • (1:24) Guest bio
    • (4:52) Patreon Thanks
    • (5:41) Interview begins | the impact of sci-fi narratives on identity and perception
    • (14:48) Technology for a friction-free life and the differing mythological impacts of Star Wars vs Star Trek
    • (19:22) How psychedelics can help us make sense of the meta-crisis
    • (25:28) Spheres of agency and how psychedelics have helped Beiner navigate crisis, personally
    • (28:49) Complexity tolerance and the overwhelming deluge of information in modern digital life
    • (32:38) Uncertainty tolerance, games, and prayer
    • (39:31) The importance of certain conceptual knowledge to access the benefits of psychedelics
    • (46:54) “How” and “why” we solve a problem is as important as the “what” of the solution itself
    • (1:01:00) The potential cultural (and cult) impact of AI | will AI become a new god?
    • (1:13:58) Extended-state DMT (DMTx) and interacting with entities | were they real?
    • (1:20:12) The impact of DMT entities and UAPs on how we understand where our solutions might come from
    • (1:31:17) How emotional resonance tricks us into believing thing that aren’t true
    • (1:33:17) The potential of our world slowly declining into a nightmare dystopian future
    • (1:39:39) Follow-up links for Beiner’s substack, book, and audiobook
    • (1:41:32) Outro
    8 March 2024, 12:30 am
  • 1 hour 37 minutes
    Herbalism, Animism, and The Language Of The Body | Marie Zak & Travis Cartwright, Althaea Herbals ~ 184

    Travis Cartwright and Marie Zak are clinical herbalists from Althaea Herbals, an apothecary in Nelson, BC, Canada. They join us on the show today to talk about herbalism as a way of being in the world, as well as a clinical practice.

    We also explore why herbalism is not just a plant replacement for pharmaceuticals; how an animistic worldview can empower us to cultivate a direct and living relationship with plants and nature as a whole; how we can learn to communicate with plants through the direct experience of the body; some of Travis and Marie’s favourite herbs; where psychedelic plants and fungi fit in a practice of herbalism; and how herbalism can support us in our experiences with psychedelic plants. 

    Enjoy

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    For links to Travis and Marie's work, full show notes, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind184

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    Episode Breakdown

    • (0:00) Opening
    • (2:31) BELONGING, Altheae’s upcoming course | Info here
    • (3:43) Patron Thanks
    • (4:32) Interview begins
    • (5:08) What herbalism is (and isn’t) | An explanation of vitalistic herbalism
    • (11:51) Clinical herbalism to balance the vital energies of the body | not just a “green pill” approach
    • (19:37) The limitations of herbal practices
    • (23:40) When to seek a clinical herbalist | when to not seek and herbalist
    • (30:29) Animism and being in direct relationship with plants
    • (35:40) The personal and collective benefits of building a direct relationship with nature
    • (43:59) Heart-centered communication, non-rational engagement, and co-attunement with plants
    • (47:48) Learning from and through the plants, through the direct experience of the body | somatic experience
    • (1:03:11) Where psychedelic plants and fungi fit in a practice of herbalism
    • (1:14:35) Where synthetic chemicals like MDMA fits in herbalism
    • (1:19:16) Travis and Marie’s personal favourite herbs, and why
    • (1:22:36) Where to start with herbalism in your life
    • (1:27:35) Belonging: A Pathway Home; their online course in building a personal practice of herbalism
    • (1:33:23) Follow-up links and contact details: https://www.althaeaherbals.com/
    • (1:34:14) Outro

     

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    *** Huge thanks to my patrons on Patreon!

    In particular, my $23+ patrons; Andreas D, Ian C, Yvette FC, Alex F, Eliz C, Nick M, Joe A, & Heather S.  And a special thanks to Martin F. for the generous paypal donation. 

    9 February 2024, 8:30 am
  • 1 hour 52 minutes
    Integrating Ayahuasca Experiences (And Psychedelics In General) | Mijal Schmidt ~ ATTMind 183

    This episode is with Mijal Schmidt and presents a rather robust exploration of what psychedelic integration is and the specifics of what an ayahuasca integration requires.

    We talk about the importance of good preparation, and what that looks like; various integration practices and activities; the most common challenges in integrating ayahuasca experiences, including integrating HUGE experiences and difficult experiences; the integration of experiences of exogenous material, e.g. entities or absorbing other people’s processes; and how to know when we have successfully completed our integration.

    We also explore the difference between psychedelic integration and psychotherapy; learning to accept what is happening in our journeys, even when we don't like it or want it or think it's what we are supposed to be experiencing; as well as how to support someone in a post-psychedelic crisis, and when to intervene for their own safety.

    Enjoy!

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    For links to Mijal's work, full show notes, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind183

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    *** Huge thanks to my patrons on Patreon!

    In particular, my $23+ patrons; Andreas D, Ian C, Yvette FC, Alex F, Eliz C, Joe A, Heather S, & Heartwood Mushrooms —— 

     

    Episode Breakdown

    • (0:00) Opening
    • (1:05) Introduction and Guest Bio
    • (4:53) Patron Thanks
    • (6:07) Interview Begins
    • (7:13) Mijal’s integration history in private practice and through the ICEERS Support Center
    • (16:40) Best practices in preparing for a psychedelic journey
    • (22:36) Preparing for ayahuasca specifically
    • (28:56) The term “intake” vs “ceremony”
    • (29:57) What an ayahuasca experience is, and what we might find
    • (37:22) Considering the integration of experiences of exogenous material, e.g. entities or absorbing other people’s processes
    • (44:05) The importance of acknowledging Mystery
    • (50:40) What, exactly, is psychedelic integration?
    • (58:10) Various integration practices and activities
    • (1:02:21) We need to be care about when, and who we talk to about our psychedelic experiences
    • (1:12:13) Be careful acting on what ayahuasca tells you, unless it's getting you out of danger
    • (1:14:52) How to know when you have successfully integrated your ayahuasca experience
    • (1:18:53) The most common challenges in integrating ayahuasca experiences
    • (1:24:20) Integrating HUGE ayahuasca experiences
    • (1:30:09) Learning to accept what is happening in our journeys
    • (1:34:49) The feelings you think are in the way, are the way
    • (1:26:23) Supporting someone in post-psychedelic crisis
    • (1:41:53) When to intervene in someone’s post-psychedelic crisis
    • (1:48:57) Follow-up links and social handles
    • (1:51:12) Outro
    8 December 2023, 8:30 am
  • 1 hour 37 minutes
    Kilindi Iyi and High Dose Psilocybin As A Form Of Martial Arts | Acacea Lewis ~ ATTMind 182

    Acacea Lewis is our guest for this episode of Adventures Through The Mind.

    Our interview explores a number of vignettes into her scholarly explorations of psychedelic mushrooms throughout human history, and especially in various African traditions. But the two main thematic arcs we travel in the interview are the work of the late Kilindi Iyi and the value and potential of high dose psilocybin experiences as a form of marital arts, primarily through the lens of Acacea’s personal experiences.

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    For links to Acacea's work, full show notes, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind182

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    Episode Breakdown

    • (0:00) Episode sponsor
    • (1:11) Opening and guest bio
    • (4:32) Patron Thanks
    • (6:48) Interview begins
    • (8:09) Acacea’s journey into high doses of psilocybin
    • (14:25) Acacea’s journey with Kilindi Iyi
    • (18:57) We see what we are interested in
    • (22:54) The African use of psychedelic mushrooms (Egypt and Maasai)
    • (30:20) The history of African martial arts, and the role of psychedelic states in martial arts practice
    • (33:25) Debunking pseudoscience can backfire
    • (30:08) An outline of Acacea’s first banned talk
    • (37:24) High dose psilocybin as a martial arts form
    • (40:03) The value (and dangers) of taking high doses of psilocybin
    • (43:44) Psilocybin mushrooms in the Aztec traditions
    • (45:51) The value of high doses is exploration (of self and of reality)
    • (56:05) Learning to be our authentic self through battle with the trained self
    • (1:01:04) The importance of healthy community during high dose explorations
    • (1:06:28) The challenges and opportunities of being stereotyped as a black woman in public advocacy of psychedelics
    • (1:17:32) Considering the potential harms of “accidentally promoting” high doses | there will always be ignorance in the world
    • (1:24:37) Psilocybin mushrooms can be harsh, just like mother nature can be harsh
    • (1:26:12) A quick run down of the lectures Acacea will be giving at the Spirit Plant Medicine Conference.
    • (1:27:05) Crystals as a technology for psychedelic experiences
    • (1:32:23) Connecting with Acacea on social media, and her online school
    • (1:35:20) Outro
    28 October 2023, 7:30 am
  • 1 hour 34 minutes
    The Schizophrenia Complex and The Turbulent Waters of The Unconscious Mind | Dr. Eve Maram ~ ATTMind 181

    Dr. Eve Maram is a clinical and forensic psychologist and a certified Jungian Analyst in private practice in Orange, California.

    She joins us to share her perspective on schizophrenia, of it as a condition wherein the organizing function of the ego is overwhelmed by the turbulence waters of the unconscious (a statement that will be well flushed out in the interview); but we also go deep into her model of the schizophrenia complex, which is the bundle of “thoughts and feelings constellated by encounters with what we call schizophrenia, for those who experience symptoms, and for those others impacted by them” (another statement that will be fully flushed out throughout the interview). 

    Throughout this interview we also explore what a complex is; the role schizophrenia played in the development of Jung’s theories; the vital important of relationship for those with schizophrenia; how schizophrenia attacks relatedness; the various ways the schizophrenia complex arises within us and why; pharmaceutical vs non-pharmaceutical treatments of schizophrenia; the changing cultural tides around how medicine perceives schizophrenia; and practical advice for relating with those who have schizophrenia and their symptoms, advice for practitioners, loved-ones, and even for people with the condition themselves. 

    Enjoy.

    For links to Dr. Maram's work, full show notes, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind181

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    Episode Breakdown

    • (0:00) Opening
    • (1:47) Episode overture and guest bio
    • (5:21) Patron thanks
    • (7:38) Interview begins
    • (8:23) How Dr. Maram came to study schizophrenia
    • (15:03) A Jungian definition of “complex”
    • (18:14) The Schizophrenia Complex
    • (24:10) How schizophrenia was essential in the development of Jung’s ideas
    • (26:37) We don’t really know what schizophrenia is, exactly.
    • (28:36) Schizophrenia as the ego mind being flooded by the unconscious
    • (36:01) The Schizophrenia Complex arises from our fear of total annihilation
    • (44:44) That fear is justified, for many reasons, what matters is that we are conscious of it.
    • (51:09) Relationship is essential in navigating schizophrenia; but schizophrenia attacks relatedness
    • (54:21) The Schizophrenia Complex manifesting through fawning (trying to save them)
    • (1:00:04) Treating schizophrenia: pharmaceutical vs non-pharmaceutical methods
    • (1:07:56) Anosognosia
    • (1:09:32) Exploring the changing cultural tides around how medicine perceives schizophrenia
    • (1:13:32) Telling the difference between psychosis and spiritual crisis
    • (1:16:22) Some practical advice for practitioners working with people with schizophrenia
    • (1:20:18) Some practical advice for people with schizophrenia grappling with their diagnosis and condition
    • (1:24:58) Some practical advice for people living with/caring for loved ones with schizophrenia
    • (1:31:51) Follow-up links and information about Dr. Maram’s book, The Schizophrenia Complex
    • (1:32:38) Closing
    6 October 2023, 2:00 pm
  • 1 hour 25 minutes
    Psychedelics and the Healing Power of Love | Dr. Adele LaFrance

    Dr. Adele Lafrance joins us to explore psychedelics and the healing power of Love.

    Our conversation begins with an exploration of emotional processing and how difficulties and deficiencies in emotional processing both our mental health, our relationships, and our general wellbeing. We then step into psychedelics and the role they play in supporting our emotional processing capacities.

    From there we turn towards Love, what it is and all the accidental ways we conflate it with things that can include love but aren’t love itself: romance, lust, infatuation, attachment, obsession, etc. We talk about the healing power of Love, both in our day-to-day lives and in various forms of healthcare, and why as a society we need to better learn how to wield and integrate that healing power of love. We then talk about encounters with Love as a transpersonal force during psychedelic experiences, the role of love in supporting people in their psychedelic experiences, and even the strange phenomenon of being harmed by too much Love on 5-MeO-DMT.

    Of course, although love itself is not sex, with any mention of love we evoke consideration of sexuality, sexual dynamics, and sex itself. Thus, we also talk about sexual healing, the complexity of sexual energy and behaviour in therapy, and even the risks, challenges, and opportunities of having sex while on psychedelics.

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    For links to Lafrance's work, full show notes, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind180

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    Episode Breakdown

    • (0:00) Opening
    • (1:35) Episode overture and guest bio
    • (5:45) Patreon thanks
    • (6:43) Interview begins
    • (7:44) Emotional processing and the damaging impact of poor emotional processing
    • (12:49) Culturally conditioned deficits in emotional processing
    • (19:50) Learning to own triggers, rather than project them
    • (22:14) The role of psychedelics in emotional processing (and vice versa)
    • (28:02) Our emotions are the most reliably true aspect of our psychedelic experiences
    • (31:18) Disambiguating “Love”
    • (37:01) Love as a transpersonal force
    • (40:01) Love in psychedelic experiences
    • (44:08) Being harmed by too much love on 5-MeO-DMT
    • (48:03) Our sociocultural context can negatively impact our psychedelic integration
    • (50:05) The role of love in our healing journeys
    • (51:48) The role of love in supporting people in psychedelic experiences
    • (53:59) We need to acknowledge love is a transpersonal force
    • (56:40) The complexity of sexual energy and behaviour in therapy
    • (1:05:11) Psychedelics and sexual healing, and sex on psychedelics
    • (1:15:57) The Love Project: what it is, how it came to be, and how you can get involved
    • (1:23:33) Closing regards
    • (1:24:25) Outro
    9 September 2023, 7:30 am
  • 3 minutes 44 seconds
    UPDATE: Changes To The Podcast Release Schedule | July 2023

    Here is a short but important update to the Podcast release schedule.

    TLDR: Rather than every two weeks, podcasts will now be released every 4 to 6 weeks for the next few months in order to allocate more time to writing a book: a follow-up to my first book, Decomposing The Shadow: Lessons From The Psilocybin Mushroom 

     

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    20 July 2023, 7:30 am
  • 2 hours 32 seconds
    Swimming In The Sacred: Wisdom From The Psychedelic Underground | Rachel Harris

    Rachel Harris, PhD joins us to talk about her new book, Swimming In The Sacred

    Swimming in the Sacred offers a revelatory look into the past half-century of psychedelics use via in-depth interviews Harris conducted with women elders who have worked underground guiding sacred entheogenic journeys to cultivate insight, healing, and spiritual development.   

    Specifically, we talk about working with unseen worlds and unseen others; thin veils, absorption, and being accidentally overdosed by psychedelics; the uncanny connection between guide and journeyer during ceremony; and how psychedelic guiding work is NOT therapy and how therapy and guiding are two different skill sets.

    Furthermore, we talk about the complexity of good dosing; the value of lower doses and the risks of putting larger doses on a pedestal; the strange emerging phenomenon of “competitive ego deathing”; and learning to work with life in a bigger way by learning to let our psychedelic insights work on us over time.

    We talk about the risks of harm and abuse in both under- and above-ground psychedelic therapy; the difference between certification and qualification; how we lose our capacity to properly skill psychedelic guides in our rush to certify as many as possible to meet a massive demand; how to assess if a provider is trustworthy and skilled; and why psychedelic therapists NEED to experience psychedelics themselves.

    ... For links to Rachel's work, full show notes and supportive materials, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind179

     

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    Episode Breakdown

    • (0:00) Opening
    • (4:08) Guest Bio
    • (6:23 ) Patreon thanks | Support The Show
    • (7:55) Interview begins
    • (10:08) The research behind Swimming In The Sacred
    • (12:10) Focusing on the value of the wisdom of women guides, specifically
    • (14:22) How women have been doubly silenced in psychedelic circles
    • (21:11) These guides aren’t therapists; their work is not therapy
    • (24:14) The capacity to work with unseen worlds is not necessarily available to all of us
    • (29:21) Thin veils, absorption, and being accidentally overdosed by psychedelics
    • (30:57) The complexity of good dosing | “Competitive Ego Deathing”
    • (34:11) Therapists DO NOT need to dose with their client
    • (34:44) Psychedelic therapists NEED to experience psychedelics | sitting and therapy are separate skills
    • (41:47) The uncanny connection between guide and journeyer during ceremony
    • (45:20) Modern psychedelic research is lacking collaboration with the wisdom of the underground
    • (49:40) We lose capacity for skillfulness in psychedelic guidance when we rush to certify psychedelic therapists
    • (53:18) The difference between certified and qualified
    • (53:52) What to ask a psychedelic guide to determine if they are trustworthy
    • (55:28) What is lost when psychedelics become a mainstream institution
    • (56:14) Psychedelic guidance is not about symptom reductions
    • (57:51) Addressing the risk of abuse in psychedelic therapy
    • (1:07:27) Therapists, heal thyself | “Waking up” does not amount to “cleaning up”
    • (1:08:51) Waking up, Cleaning up, Growing up, Looking around
    • (1:11:13) Working with life in a bigger way
    • (1:13:59) The value of lower doses and the risks of putting larger doses on a pedestal
    •  (1:24:29) The strange trend of overdosed microdosing supplements
    • (1:25:40) Psychedelic insights work on you over time, if you support them in doing so
    • (1:34:03) Be careful not to psychologize spiritual experiences
    • (1:39:56) Discerning between a “message from the medicine” and ego projection
    • (1:42:51) Psilocybin-assisted Therapy Vs Therapy-assisted Psilocybin
    • (1:44:57) Advice for people who want to become psychedelic therapists
    • (1:47:09) Advice for therapists who want to start providing psychedelic therapy
    •  (1:48:07) Ketamine Therapy is NOT Psychedelic Therapy
    • (1:50:50) Advice for people who want to become underground guides
    • (1:52:43) Advice for finding a psychedelic guide you can trust
    • (1:54:27) Advice for people who want to develop a life practice with psychedelic plants
    • (1:56:41) “Swimming In The Sacred” comes from Maria Sabina
    • (1:57:58) Follow-up links
    • (1:58:55) Closing

     

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    30 June 2023, 7:30 am
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    From Broken to Blessed on The Bipolar Spectrum | Sara Schley ~ ATTMind 178

    Today’s episode is a bit of a lateral step from psychedelics specifically as we are going to talk about bipolar with Sara Schley, the author of the highly-acclaimed memoir BrainStorm: From Broken to Blessed on the Bipolar Spectrum. 

    We talk about bipolar as a spectrum and the different variations of bipolar disorder; why it is that so many people with bipolar are misdiagnosed and the issues this presents to those individuals and their families; major triggers for bipolar episodes and why medication isn’t enough to keep people stable; the self-care system Schley has developed for living with a bipolar brain; and how to support your friends/family that are in a bipolar crisis.

    Enjoy.

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    For links to Schley's work, full show notes, and a link to watch this episode in video, head to bit.ly/ATTMind178

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    Episode Breakdown

    • (0:00) Opening
    • (1:52) Guest bio and episode summary
    • (3:40) Patreon thanks | Support the show
    • (5:45) Interview Begins
    • (8:37) The story of Sara discovering that she has bipolar
    • (12:34) The bipolar spectrum and the different variations of bipolar disorder
    • (16:55) Traditional SSRIs do NOT work for bipolar
    • (18:21) The epidemic of misdiagnosis of bipolar
    • (21:52) How undiagnosed bipolar (and mental illness in general) can destroy your relationships and your life
    • (27:17) Why there are so many mentally ill people in our society
    • (30:25) The genetics, epigenetics, and neurology of bipolar
    • (35:34) Does life context “activate” bipolar or is it inevitable regardless of context?
    • (43:49) PECS self-care system (Physical, emotional, creative, spiritual)
    • (49:56) Pharmaceutical vs non-pharmaceutical treatment for bipolar
    • (1:00:39) Having a practical PECS moment
    • (1:02:19) Keeping bipolar stable and major triggers
    • (1:08:39) Why isn’t medication enough to keep stable?
    • (1:14:16) James’ morning practice
    • (1:16:07) How bipolar made Sara a better person
    • (1:20:41) What Sara wants you to remember from this podcast
    • (1:21:31) The emergency ally toolkit (how to support your friends/family that are in a bipolar crisis)
    • (1:23:04) Follow up links for other content, social media, and Sara’s book Brainstorm
    • (1:24:33) Closing, socials, and gratitude
    16 June 2023, 7:30 am
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